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		<title>By: Junktape</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainmentgeekly.com/2008/01/25/rogers-grand-unified-cylon-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-2576</link>
		<dc:creator>Junktape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am impressed, intimidated and awestruck by the level of thought that&#8217;s gone into all this - and how very tangible it all seems to be.&#160; Fascianting, as the son of Sarek would say.&#160;  I really love this theory and it gives me a dash of hope.&#160;  As loyal as I am to this series, Ron Moore has always insisted that the arcs the shows have taken were NOT discussed from the beginning but improvised along the way.&#160;  Which makes me worry that they have painted themselves into a corner.&#160;  But he HAS lied to us before, and they ARE some of the most unconventional writers working in tv today.&#160;  (and hopefully, star wars tomorrow, along with Fat Ass).&#160;  Anyway, you give me hope.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am impressed, intimidated and awestruck by the level of thought that&#8217;s gone into all this &#8211; and how very tangible it all seems to be.&nbsp; Fascianting, as the son of Sarek would say.&nbsp;  I really love this theory and it gives me a dash of hope.&nbsp;  As loyal as I am to this series, Ron Moore has always insisted that the arcs the shows have taken were NOT discussed from the beginning but improvised along the way.&nbsp;  Which makes me worry that they have painted themselves into a corner.&nbsp;  But he HAS lied to us before, and they ARE some of the most unconventional writers working in tv today.&nbsp;  (and hopefully, star wars tomorrow, along with Fat Ass).&nbsp;  Anyway, you give me hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some interesting speculation here:
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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/422026/the_last_cylon_who_is_the_fifth_of.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting speculation here:</p>
<p>http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/422026/the_last_cylon_who_is_the_fifth_of.html</p>
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		<title>By: cybergosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>cybergosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What I wanna know is where does Dirk Benedict fit into all of this?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I wanna know is where does Dirk Benedict fit into all of this?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing that just occurred to me: Anders might be significant because he&#8217;s the only cylon we&#8217;ve ever seen get sick, long before the plague incident. Didn&#8217;t Simon say that it was impossible for cylons to get sick?
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Being a cylon could also explain Tigh&#8217;s herculean resistance to alcohol.
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I&#8217;m told there&#8217;s a torrent of Razor floating around. I may pull the trigger on it tonight.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that just occurred to me: Anders might be significant because he&#8217;s the only cylon we&#8217;ve ever seen get sick, long before the plague incident. Didn&#8217;t Simon say that it was impossible for cylons to get sick?</p>
<p>Being a cylon could also explain Tigh&#8217;s herculean resistance to alcohol.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m told there&#8217;s a torrent of Razor floating around. I may pull the trigger on it tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Douggold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douggold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;About the eleventh time someone on the show said &#8220;this has all happened before&#8221; (which, come to think of it, nobody has said in a while) I had the idea that they were referring to the original &#8216;70s TV show and when they finally get to earth, the old &#8216;70s Battlestar and her fleet will be there already.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the eleventh time someone on the show said &#8220;this has all happened before&#8221; (which, come to think of it, nobody has said in a while) I had the idea that they were referring to the original &#8216;70s TV show and when they finally get to earth, the old &#8216;70s Battlestar and her fleet will be there already.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the ideas I had was that the cylons are so hung up on &#8220;God&#8221; because they had actually found something godlike out there in space after the first war. An Imperious Leader or something that changed them from mechanical puppets into real little boys and girls. Since the cylons were demystified somewhat in Season 3, and the religious angle hasn&#8217;t been played up so strongly in recent episodes, I&#8217;d stopped thinking about it.
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I like the idea of God being played by Dirk Benedict. That would be cool.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the ideas I had was that the cylons are so hung up on &#8220;God&#8221; because they had actually found something godlike out there in space after the first war. An Imperious Leader or something that changed them from mechanical puppets into real little boys and girls. Since the cylons were demystified somewhat in Season 3, and the religious angle hasn&#8217;t been played up so strongly in recent episodes, I&#8217;d stopped thinking about it.</p>
<p>I like the idea of God being played by Dirk Benedict. That would be cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1) I haven&#8217;t seen or heard any recent interviews with her, but Moore &amp; Co. have been less than truthful in the past. They did tell the entire cast and crew (save for a couple) that her character was killed off.
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2) I&#8217;ve heard Moore say that the Final Five are fundamentally different from the seven cylons we&#8217;ve already seen. What I&#8217;m hoping he doesn&#8217;t do is plant some sort of retro continuity macguffin in Razor that doesn&#8217;t fit with everything we&#8217;ve seen so far.
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A friend of mine has a theory like yours that fits with the idea that &#8220;all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.&#8221; He believes that this is one big long repeating cycle: Humans on Earth migrate to Kobol, then to the twelve colonies, where they create cylons, who eventually create humanoid versions of themselves, who drive the humans back to Kobol, and back to Earth. And then you start all over again, like The Matrix.
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One thing about the &#8220;signposts&#8221; that the humans have encountered on Kobol and afterwards: they were obviously put there by someone who knew the way back to Earth, which means that they probably came from there in the first place. How would someone know what the constellations looked like while one was standing on Earth, unless they had been there already?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) I haven&#8217;t seen or heard any recent interviews with her, but Moore &amp; Co. have been less than truthful in the past. They did tell the entire cast and crew (save for a couple) that her character was killed off.</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;ve heard Moore say that the Final Five are fundamentally different from the seven cylons we&#8217;ve already seen. What I&#8217;m hoping he doesn&#8217;t do is plant some sort of retro continuity macguffin in Razor that doesn&#8217;t fit with everything we&#8217;ve seen so far.</p>
<p>A friend of mine has a theory like yours that fits with the idea that &#8220;all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.&#8221; He believes that this is one big long repeating cycle: Humans on Earth migrate to Kobol, then to the twelve colonies, where they create cylons, who eventually create humanoid versions of themselves, who drive the humans back to Kobol, and back to Earth. And then you start all over again, like The Matrix.</p>
<p>One thing about the &#8220;signposts&#8221; that the humans have encountered on Kobol and afterwards: they were obviously put there by someone who knew the way back to Earth, which means that they probably came from there in the first place. How would someone know what the constellations looked like while one was standing on Earth, unless they had been there already?</p>
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		<title>By: Douggold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douggold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From listening to all the Battlestar podcasts, and reading reviews and articles where I could, I recall the following two comments:
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1. Katee has said in numerous articles that the show creators have told her that Starbuck is NOT a Cylon.&#160; I don&#8217;t think this is a red herring, since cast and crew have never directly lied in interviews. So I trust that.
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2. Ronald Moore has said that the four Cylons revealed in the season finale will challenge our notions of what Cylons are and what their history has been.&#160; I&#8217;ve been digesting this for a while, and this is what I think:&#160; I think we&#8217;ve never questioned the timeline that Cylons were robots that build better versions of themselves that looked like humans.&#160; What if Cylons STARTED OUT looking like humans (perhaps they&#8217;re aliens? Mutants?) and have been manipulating things for a long time...even creating the robot Cylons long ago...and laying the seeds for their revolt.&#160; Maybe this has all been planned to get the Colonials out of the colonies and looking for Earth, and everyone is playing into the hands of the original Cylons (what we now call &#8220;the final five.&quot;)
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Thoughts?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From listening to all the Battlestar podcasts, and reading reviews and articles where I could, I recall the following two comments:</p>
<p>1. Katee has said in numerous articles that the show creators have told her that Starbuck is NOT a Cylon.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t think this is a red herring, since cast and crew have never directly lied in interviews. So I trust that.</p>
<p>2. Ronald Moore has said that the four Cylons revealed in the season finale will challenge our notions of what Cylons are and what their history has been.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve been digesting this for a while, and this is what I think:&nbsp; I think we&#8217;ve never questioned the timeline that Cylons were robots that build better versions of themselves that looked like humans.&nbsp; What if Cylons STARTED OUT looking like humans (perhaps they&#8217;re aliens? Mutants?) and have been manipulating things for a long time&#8230;even creating the robot Cylons long ago&#8230;and laying the seeds for their revolt.&nbsp; Maybe this has all been planned to get the Colonials out of the colonies and looking for Earth, and everyone is playing into the hands of the original Cylons (what we now call &#8220;the final five.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Ass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Ass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well done. I just hope and pray that the writers have given it as much thought as you have, LOL.
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I can&#8217;t posit any theories other than what you&#8217;ve got, but I really hope that, for example, if Baltar ISN&#8217;T a Cylon, then SOME explanation is given for the fact that the hallucination in his head delivered him real information. Even just the chip theory would solve that problem. I also hope some explanation is given for Starbuck&#8217;s return and strange supernatural powers.
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Startbuck could be her own clone, created from the uterus or cells or whatever were taken from her on Caprica. That&#8217;d be interesting.
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Can&#8217;t wait for Razor. Love seeing the 70&#8217;s toasters in action, although the one in the preview looks like a CGI ragdoll.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done. I just hope and pray that the writers have given it as much thought as you have, LOL.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t posit any theories other than what you&#8217;ve got, but I really hope that, for example, if Baltar ISN&#8217;T a Cylon, then SOME explanation is given for the fact that the hallucination in his head delivered him real information. Even just the chip theory would solve that problem. I also hope some explanation is given for Starbuck&#8217;s return and strange supernatural powers.</p>
<p>Startbuck could be her own clone, created from the uterus or cells or whatever were taken from her on Caprica. That&#8217;d be interesting.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for Razor. Love seeing the 70&#8217;s toasters in action, although the one in the preview looks like a CGI ragdoll.</p>
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		<title>By: BNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well done. (I read it in the can as you recommended.) I only hope the writers have put together something equally plausible. I remain anxious, however....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done. (I read it in the can as you recommended.) I only hope the writers have put together something equally plausible. I remain anxious, however&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;m itching to see Razor. Those flashback webisodes have really been whetting my appetite.
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I&#8217;m not 100% sure what the things in Baltar and Caprica Six&#8217;s heads are, but they have to be &#8220;real&#8221; because they were able to give noth of them important information. Maybe they are what they say, emissaries of some godlike power.
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Have you seen the Season 4 trailer? Starbuck is most definitely alive.
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Does anyone have information on how to see Razor in the theaters?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m itching to see Razor. Those flashback webisodes have really been whetting my appetite.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not 100% sure what the things in Baltar and Caprica Six&#8217;s heads are, but they have to be &#8220;real&#8221; because they were able to give noth of them important information. Maybe they are what they say, emissaries of some godlike power.</p>
<p>Have you seen the Season 4 trailer? Starbuck is most definitely alive.</p>
<p>Does anyone have information on how to see Razor in the theaters?</p>
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		<title>By: Eros Welker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eros Welker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really love all of this,  I haven&#8217;t thought much about the Pacifist/Warlike crew, but it holds water.&#160; I&#8217;ve seen Razor, and while it doesn&#8217;t shed any more light on season 3, it does have some startling (and awesome) revelations that beg even more questions, or yield even more theories.
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This is very well thought out though.&#160; Up until this, I was pretty squarely in the &#8220;it&#8217;s lame it&#8217;s Tigh&#8221; camp, but you&#8217;re right.&#160; It was post-first war so it actually makes a lot of sense.&#160; What are your theories to the Six/Baltar connection?&#160; She starts seeing him in her head after she resurrects, what&#8217;s it all mean?
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It&#8217;s going to take a lot for me to buy that Starbuck is alive, and that she&#8217;s been to Earth&#8230; or at least, it&#8217;s going to take some smart writing.
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The interesting bit, as we head into the long stretch towards the new season (can you believe it doesn&#8217;t start till April!?), is that we should see more of the Earth/Caprica connection.&#160; I forget who, but a question was asked about why does it seem like a lot of Earth technology exists in BSG world, and it was hinted that there was a very good reason that Earth and the Colonies were connected.&#160; Now, we have a Bob Dylan song that four folks, from different planets, seem to know.&#160; For a moment, I thought it was that they were receiving a signal from Earth, almost like tuning into a radio station, but really I&#8217;m confused by it all, but still interested. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.entertainmentgeekly.com/images/smileys/wink.gif&quot; width=&quot;19&quot; height=&quot;19&quot; alt=&quot;wink&quot; style=&quot;border:0;&quot; /&gt;
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Razor is bad ass btw.&#160; I highly recommend to those that can to see it in a theater.&#160; Not that I did, but I would have loved to.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really love all of this,  I haven&#8217;t thought much about the Pacifist/Warlike crew, but it holds water.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve seen Razor, and while it doesn&#8217;t shed any more light on season 3, it does have some startling (and awesome) revelations that beg even more questions, or yield even more theories.</p>
<p>This is very well thought out though.&nbsp; Up until this, I was pretty squarely in the &#8220;it&#8217;s lame it&#8217;s Tigh&#8221; camp, but you&#8217;re right.&nbsp; It was post-first war so it actually makes a lot of sense.&nbsp; What are your theories to the Six/Baltar connection?&nbsp; She starts seeing him in her head after she resurrects, what&#8217;s it all mean?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to take a lot for me to buy that Starbuck is alive, and that she&#8217;s been to Earth&#8230; or at least, it&#8217;s going to take some smart writing.</p>
<p>The interesting bit, as we head into the long stretch towards the new season (can you believe it doesn&#8217;t start till April!?), is that we should see more of the Earth/Caprica connection.&nbsp; I forget who, but a question was asked about why does it seem like a lot of Earth technology exists in BSG world, and it was hinted that there was a very good reason that Earth and the Colonies were connected.&nbsp; Now, we have a Bob Dylan song that four folks, from different planets, seem to know.&nbsp; For a moment, I thought it was that they were receiving a signal from Earth, almost like tuning into a radio station, but really I&#8217;m confused by it all, but still interested. </p>
<p>Razor is bad ass btw.&nbsp; I highly recommend to those that can to see it in a theater.&nbsp; Not that I did, but I would have loved to.</p>
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