I’m a Spider-Fan

What a wonderful, wonderful movie. Have to see it again! I won’t drop spoilers here, but will look to elaborate in a review this weekend. Go see it, don’t be a Spider-Can’t.

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  1. Cybergosh says:

    Ha!  I love when you report in via sidekick straight from the scene!

    This poster made me realize that my own take on this film is exactly like Peter’s theme.  I am against myself.  Half of me loving it and the other, the other more frustrated…more angry…

    Many opinions will echo this theme.  The only question is

    which side will you give into?

  2. Junktape says:

    I adore you, but you are on crack.

    Actually, I’m not gonna be that way.  I acknowledge that unlike Batman Forever, there is some KICKASS ACTION to be had here.

    I just think it’s the absolute worst of the three, with the least attention paid to good storytelling.

    What I liked about the first two movies, though they were not as perfect as X-MEN, was that they kept a nice balance of story, character and action.

    Wheras in my opinion, this movie was X-MEN 3 but with better effects.

    And Hal Fishman.

  3. Eros Welker says:

    You keep referring to the first two movies like they were ANY different.

    For example, Spider-Man 2.  Doc Ock needs to find Peter Parker so that he can get him to tell him where Spider-Man is.  So what does he do?  He throws a fucking car through a window at him, nearly killing him.  Thankfully, Parker IS Spider-Man so is able to dodge in time where a normal person would be quieter than a dead church mouse.

    The previous movies are FULL of “plot holes” like this, but yet, you keep talking about them as if they’re tales of genius.  They’re not, but they’re damn fun, with just a hint of tragedy and sorrow, and that’s what makes them so good. 

    Spider-Man 3 is NO different than those other two films.  Yes, it’s complicated and the Venom plotline a little tacked on (I would have been fine if he never showed up, but when he does and isn’t Topher, I did dig it), but to imply that it’s X-MEN 3 is an insult you should have to take back.

    Perhaps when you need my two grain to finish that city, I’ll pressure you into admitting that your wrongdoings have done you wrong!

  4. Junktape says:

    I dont recall hailing the first two movies as being genius.  Just better.  I cared more about the characters because I liked them, I thought they behaved like real people.  Sure, most popcorn movies have plot holes, I get it.  But Spider Man three is the swiss cheese of the trilogy and I stand by the fact that the first two scripts are MUCH better written. 

    I’m saying that story/character wise, Spidey 3 is to the Spidey trilogy what X-Men 3, Superman 3 or Batman Forever are to their respective franchises.  Only with stellar special effects.

    There are just SO MANY holes in every single scene.  I didn’t even go into the stuff about Harry making MJ break up with Peter so that she can go back to work and say nothing about it, or the sheer ridiculousness of Peter handing Doc Connors A FUCKING ALIEN LIFEFORM that he has absoutely no reaction to.

    One of my kids from class just handed me fucking evidence of alien life!!!!!!!!!!!  “Gee peter, looks like an alien that feeds off aggression.  Gotta go, I’ve got papers to grade!”

    ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

    The high school science teacher in gremlins woulda freaked.

    Spider Man 3 sucks.

    —-Sandman rules.  Only he didn’t kill Uncle Ben any more than Han shot first.

  5. Eros Welker says:

    I’m not going to pick apart each of these films scene by scene, but I guarantee if you go through them all, you’ll find it equally ridiculous.

    I’m usually in the head that you’re in right now when I see movies, but I guess for Spidey 3, I set my expectations properly and therefore didn’t have to stew and say, “but he’d never say that” or “but no one would ever act like that.”

    I mean, this is a world where superheroes and supervillains battle one another.  Spider-Man himself was invented because a genetically-engineered super spider bit him.  Why? How is that scientifically possible?  And why wouldn’t the science dept. of Columbia shut the whole place down the second they realized one of fifteen of their amazing experiments got loose… and that’s scene one of Spider-Man.

    Again, c’mon beeyatch.  Let loose.  And more importantly, I’ll see you in Catan later!

  6. Cybergosh says:

    Yeah – you cannot say this film sucks.  You should go again.  There is so much good in it.  However, after seeing it a second time, i just wish it stuck to its own rules.  I wanna know why Peter is able to casually take the Symbiote suit on and off at his own will throughout the film, but at the end he needs the vibrations to remove it.  The suit should have been on him the whole time.  Always under his clothes.  Glued to him.  Although i don’t know the comics so maybe that’s just the way it was.  But it bothered me a little tonight. 

    Anyway – there are so many great moments to this.  And yes, i agree with you Eros – the tone is the same and its one of the things i love about it.

    Think about this:

    it is the FIRST time when a saga got to its third film with all the creative elements in tact.  I’ll even include the score, since technically it is the same music.

    Think about it – what other Part 3 stayed so in tact?

    Back to the Future Part III is the only other one.

    You can’t say Jedi because of Marquand.

    You can’t say Last Crusade because of many actors from Raiders and Temple were nowhere to be found.

    So i’m talking in front and behind the camera.

    It is pretty impressive what Sam has held together here.

    I just think it’s time to end it.

    ONE LAST THING –

    the last shot…

    should have faded to black on his hand reaching out to hers.  Her look (great moment)…then her hand falling into frame to join his.

    Fade Out.

    The close up of them spinning felt very unnecessary.

  7. Eros Welker says:

    No!  The last shot should have been the science lab at night.  Curt Connors studying the symbiote and saying something like, “wow, this has some very interesting regenerative powers”… and then putting it in a cage next to a little gecko. DUN DUN DUN!!!

    I loved in 2 how they set up Harry for 3… but it seems like everyone’s checking out for 4; not that it won’t happen, but I just wonder with whom.

  8. junktape says:

    LOL, we all have different criteria.  Obviously you can’t go looking for hardcore realism in a comic book movie.  But as Star Wars taught us and Batman Begins reminded us, these movies are at their best when the characters appear GROUNDED IN REALITY. 

    So that we can relate, emotionally.  So that the stakes seem real.  To contrast the fantastic with the mundane.  Otherwise nothing has any weight or import to it.  Spider-Man comics more than any at the time, knew this.  It was a ground-breaking series that kids could relate to because it dealt with REAL PEOPLE and REAL RELATIONSHIPS.

    Besides needing a certain amount of grounding in OUR reality, a good comic book movie also needs to remain faithful to ITS OWN REALITY, meaning the rules set up by the previous films.  Characters we’ve come to know have a responsibility not to act out of character for the sake of plot.  Sure it may work, but it’s lazy and it makes me feel cheated.  “Spider Sense” and other aspects should not be tossed aside so casually.

    Its’ a system of checks and balances called “Suspension of Disbelief”—that invisible line between movie and audience member that, once crossed, is a personal point-of-no-return for some people.  Each of us has that line and guards it with different levels of ferocity.  Mine was crossed once too many times in this movie, whereas in the first two, my suspension of disbelief held much more firmly.

    And this movie squats and poops on the line, sorry.  Believe me, I wanna have fun and cheer.  And I did, a couple times.  I can’t stress enough that the action is a lot of fun.  This movie is a great lap dance.  Guess I’m lookin for more of a committed relationship.

    I agree with FatAss’ grade of C.  Boo Humbug.

  9. Cybergosh says:

    I agree about Connors.  But i really think Raimi didin’t want to go around creating loose ends this time.  He wanted closure on the trilogy.

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